Tonic Posted Wednesday at 19:58 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:58 (edited) I saw this and had a WTF moment! TARDIS ONLY AVAILABLE THROUGH SELECTED QUALITY OUTLETS RRP £7,000.00 This is a gamechanger! – Revolutionary electric generator box that defies science! Plug into 13a socket, 3 separate output leads each producing 32a! No more big electric bills! No more electricians (some basic electrical knowledge is required, to connect the output leads to a consumer board – 1 lead: 1 board) Reduces electric cost by p to 90% Quiet running compact unit Dimms: 1.1m x 0.8m x 0.4m Weight: 62 Kgs Wheels / trolley NOT INCLUDED PRE-ORDER ONLY – NONE AVAILABLE UNTIL END OF SEPTEMBER "Reduces electric cost by up to 90%" Yeah OK sure it does. Am I going crazy or do this lot have some balls? It's 7 grand FFS! Can anyone shed some more light on this? Cheers Edited Wednesday at 20:23 by Gsyrup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyRider Posted Wednesday at 20:08 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:08 I smell BS. You can't magically create extra power. You can bump the current up, but that comes at the cost of the voltage. Where they hiding the batteries? (Perpetual motion reference). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbillybob Posted Thursday at 06:23 Share Posted Thursday at 06:23 well ive got a 32 amp supply in my garage for compressor, dent pullers etc. So im afraid this is horseshit, no way installing this reduces your bills, its fantasy stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenVision Posted Thursday at 07:22 Share Posted Thursday at 07:22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypig Posted Thursday at 07:42 Share Posted Thursday at 07:42 1 hour ago, badbillybob said: well ive got a 32 amp supply in my garage for compressor, dent pullers etc. So im afraid this is horseshit, no way installing this reduces your bills, its fantasy stuff Your logic sir, is impeccable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbillybob Posted Thursday at 08:06 Share Posted Thursday at 08:06 can you explain how 3 x 32 amp supplies come from one 13 amp socket then? im all ears 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyRider Posted Thursday at 08:27 Share Posted Thursday at 08:27 (edited) 21 minutes ago, badbillybob said: can you explain how 3 x 32 amp supplies come from one 13 amp socket then? im all ears As I said above, increasing the current isn't the problem. It's the corresponding drop in voltage that is For anyone interested, P=IV, or I=P/V or V=P/I Where V is voltage, I is current and P is power. UK sockets are 230V (boo!). At 13A we get 13x230 which is 2,990W of power. As you can see from the equations above, these numbers are proportional. If we change one, we change another. So let's just increase the current. The power has to stay the same, that can't magically increase (without that hidden, magic battery I mentioned) so where are we? Well, V=P/I, so 2,990/96 (32 x 3 that they claim) and we get... 31.15V So either they have a magic battery, they have found new physics, their machine drops the voltage to 31V or it's just a pure scam. Take your pick Edited Thursday at 08:28 by SkyRider Spelling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyRider Posted Thursday at 08:30 Share Posted Thursday at 08:30 Kahn Air... interesting name too. Nearly sounds like...Con Air...a film about a plane full of convicts That's probably where they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boojum Posted Thursday at 10:03 Share Posted Thursday at 10:03 Are the magic beans included or do you pay separately for them ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shumroom Posted Thursday at 17:54 Share Posted Thursday at 17:54 Unicorn poo for sale, grows giant veg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweettooth Posted Thursday at 19:34 Share Posted Thursday at 19:34 looks like a step up transformer, I'm no electrician so can't disect it These look quite common in the building trade, taking 3000va and outputting 5000va for power tools, again, no leccy but there's plenty ty of these on blakely electrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyRider Posted Thursday at 20:02 Share Posted Thursday at 20:02 Again, see my post above. Voltage and current have a relationship with each other. You can change one but so does the other. So in your example where voltages get increased, the current gets decreased, maintaining the relationship. If people could just create extra power from magic boxes we'd not need our nuclear reactors anymore. Why bother when we could just use a potato, send it through this box and magically get all the power we want.. I'm not an electrician either, I was trained in electronics engineering though. Take that for what you will. Sorry for being blunt. I detest scams like these though and don't want anyone here wasting their money. This is NOT going to save you 90% on your energy bills like they claim. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyRider Posted Thursday at 20:23 Share Posted Thursday at 20:23 Just to add before anyone thinks they can ask me questions about their electrics. I was a shit electronics engineer, hence why I do software now ten years of that shit was enough for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweettooth Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago So I called Kahn today and asked them "Its a current amplifier". you take each 32A output and connect to a consumer board and just connect it to a standard 12A socket. Still baffled, the guy didn't have any datasheets. If current amplifiers created free electricity, every house would have them. Sure nikoli tesla is laughing somewhere 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweettooth Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago I was youtubing and came across this.... what if the physics we know and have been taught is a lie to hold us back and create an energy cartel? tesla had multiple inventions that have never seen the light of day? You hear stories of people that create self perpetual free energy devices and then dissappear (should this be in the conspiracy section). didn't tesla create something that JP Morgan removed funding for as why create something free for the people? saying that though, if it were true it would t be long before this device disappeared 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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