Finishing off

[screrg]

Areet.

 

I'm 8.5 weeks into flower and looking to try and finish this grow off asap as need a new boiler fitted so will have to tgake it all down and tidy up. I flipped on 21st July and had some issues with my filter being covered as discussed here.

 

 

 

All sorted now and good airflow, passive intake, 850 -900 lux at canopy, in mud and using grower's ark as usual. They look pretty sad but haven't had the ideal start. Starting to brown up a bit but still a good 3+ weeks away.

 

 

I've just fed for the last time with 1ml boost it and according to the chart should be reducing bloom to 3ml on Fridaythen flushing. Thing is this chart is very optimistic and my plants never finish at 7 weeks. Even not including the stretch as I feed grow nutes until they stop growing then start at week one. as per the guide. Should I keep going with 4ml bloom, 1ml xtra for a while until the calyxes start swelling and they brown up more?

 

 

First grow with AC infinty gear all set up so conditions are spot on. Been 27C 55% humidity lights on and got heaters on a timer to keep them 26C 55% humidity lights off. Should I have a bigger gap in temps between lights on and lights off? They're citrus seeds from the site and smell lush. Should fatten up next few weeks.

 

Should I keep it as it is for a bit and reduce humidity to 50% and reduce lux levels nearer the chop? Want it finished asap to get the boiler sorted and not have to worry about taking everything down again for a good while. Any advice much appreciated.

[BilgePump]

They look like they've still got a few weeks to go yet mate , if it was me i wouldn't be thinking about tailing things off for at least a fortnight maybe even longer.

 

Also give her a tidy up and get those necrotic leaves off yer buds, last thing you want is a load of rot last knockings bro.

 

[Herbal Kint]

If your giving them 4ml bloom more wont help,max i went was 3ml bloom 1ml grow with bio bizz nutes.

How much grow do you put in and what nutes?

Do you check temp of water you give them? Since your day/night temps are point on id bet on feeding issue? That purple leaf on pic 4, looks either cold or overfeeding with bloom or some lockout,hence i ask  about water temp?

E2a how strong is lamp and how far is it?

Edited Thursday at 12:24 by Herbal Kint

[Shumroom]

13 hours ago, screrg said:

I'm 8.5 weeks into flower

But you say you just fed last boost,

isn’t that end of week 6 on the feed chart you included?

 

 

It’s genetics that are the main factor for finishing time 

 

Atb

 

 

 

[screrg]

12 hours ago, BilgePump said:

They look like they've still got a few weeks to go yet mate , if it was me i wouldn't be thinking about tailing things off for at least a fortnight maybe even longer.

 

Also give her a tidy up and get those necrotic leaves off yer buds, last thing you want is a load of rot last knockings bro.

 

Aye, more than 2 weeks, 4 at least. Will tidy her up tonight. I've been away and she's not been looked after properly. Thing that I think hasn't helped at all was the thick cover that was over the filter all the way through until about 4 weeks ago. That caused no neg pressure and vbery little if any fresh airflow going through.

 

Question I really was wanting some ideas on was what to feed from here on in. The chart says to reduce bloom feed to 3ml and increase extra traces to 2ml but that's based on the planbt being a week away from being done. Think I'll continue with 4ml bloom and 1 ml extra traces and see how she goes.

 

11 hours ago, Herbal Kint said:

If your giving them 4ml bloom more wont help,max i went was 3ml bloom 1ml grow with bio bizz nutes.

How much grow do you put in and what nutes?

Do you check temp of water you give them? Since your day/night temps are point on id bet on feeding issue? That purple leaf on pic 4, looks either cold or overfeeding with bloom or some lockout,hence i ask  about water temp?

E2a how strong is lamp and how far is it?

 

 

I folllow the chart in the OP using grower's ark nutres and it's always been on point. Just this grow has been beset by a poor job of paying them as much attetnion as I should've and the issue with the cover on the filter being too thick and not allowing any airflow or neg pressure for weeks and weeks. These had the same feeding pattern and concentrations but were looked after better and had no equipment issues. About the same age as the one in the OP.

 

 

 

 

 

Lamp is a migro array 20" above canopy with lux 850-900.

 

When I feed I usually use warm water but the boiler gave up this summer so been doing it cold from the tap. You reckon using tepid water to feed will help?

 

11 hours ago, Shumroom said:

 

Edited yesterday at 00:11 by screrg
Accidently posted early

[screrg]

11 hours ago, Shumroom said:

But you say you just fed last boost,

isn’t that end of week 6 on the feed chart you included?

 

 

It’s genetics that are the main factor for finishing time 

 

Atb

 

I fed for 2.5 weeks with grow nutes through the stretch so didn't include that in the bloom feed numbers. 2.5 weeks grow nutes then start from week one on the chart in the OP so up to week 8.5 now. Question is that the chart above is based on finishing flowering in 8/9 weeks but it often takes longer than that so what to feed from here until they look about a week away? Can't see that reducing thebloom feed will help as trhey've got a canny way to go yet so planning on trying 4ml bloom and 1ml xtra for another couple of weeks and hopefully see them browning up and nearing the end.

 

I've had a stern word with meself and will be a much more devoted, doting father next time as this one would've been taken into social services by now

 

 

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Shumroom said:

 

 

[Herbal Kint]

Check temp your watering with thats all as your on point with nutes as well,no surprise they took a beating if you were away.

GA is one part nute?

Edited 14 hours ago by Herbal Kint

[EarLobe]

You might disagree but to me these look like they're suffering.

Have you had a look at your run off PPM and PH?

I spent 2 years blindly following the nutrient schedule and had leaves like this every single time. In soil so I never really checked but one day I did and my soil run off was reading 4000ppm.  I'd only used grow/bloom but at full strength according to the schedule. I check at every watering now and if my run off is above 1200ppm it gets plain water with Mg to balance the hard water. And even more Mg when I'm feeding because there's Ca in my base food and no extra Mg, idiots...

 

I've barely used 1/4 strength of the recommended my last few grows and I've not had a single issue.

 

When my plants end up like this the buds tend to look fine but they end up really harsh and a bit crumbly...

[screrg]

Think yous are right about lockout and probably the run off being far too hot. I've just went to feed them again and am right at the of a 5litre bottle of xtra traces to the point I'm having to tip the bottle almost horizontally to get the dripper to catch the last bits. It's like treacle. Got another fresh bottlw in the cupboard and it looks like iced tea. Old bottle looks like dark rum. I always give the bottles a shake before measuring out the quantites for feeding but this is like sedimenty and looks highly concentrated. I've kept the run off from toniught and will find my ppm reader themoro as knackered now and work early tomorrow.

 

The plant hasn't browned up any more for a while now and is drooping even tho the buds aren't that big. Defeinitely suffering.

 

What's tghe solution? It'd be difficult to take her out of the net as she's fragile so flushing her thru in the bath under a tap would be a last resort. Can I just lush with plain water where she is for a good while until the ppm from the run off is at a decent level? What would I be aiming for with ppm reading in the run off? Any help much appreciated as is the time taken to try and identify the issue.

 

The buds are pretty good and if she can recover and finsh they should be decent size and they smell lush atm. Will try and get the readings up here tomorrow night.

[EarLobe]

Bit of an awkward one to answer from my end on this one mate. Hopefully someone has something a bit more optimistic to say then me but I'd let this one run it's course and accept the mistakes made.

Once you know what the soil readings are you can make a decision from there. If the soil is proper cooked you can attempt to leech the nutrients out with a flush or plain water feed until the ppm is in an acceptable range.

 

The biggest issue you'll have if the soil is too hot is the ph. It'll be so low it'll take the best part of a bathtub of water to flush it through. I think I was sat at around 4.8 ph at my very worst .

 

I'm 4 weeks into flower at the minute, feed going in is 700ppm and feed out is around 750-800,  this can and does raise and at that point I'll just do a plain water rather than a feed until the run off is about what im going to be putting in. I only up the feed if the new growth is lighter than normal or i lose leaves on the skirt.. I'm in 10L pots, 3L a day's and 300Ml run off collected every 24 hours or so.