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Tried finding the seller to share, but can't find it.  Got some kraft paper ones off River Site, always done well.  Got 10, I've still only used the same 4 for few years now.

My partner is signed up to a cheap food app > saw cheap bakery goods last week > I now have a brown paper sack almost big as me, no wax etc.  Probably easier to buy one but do keep eye out EVERYWHERE!

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I took one for the team and bought a box lol

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The first thing you'll notice is they ain't brown lol, they feel smooth inside and outside and very thin, no idea what that means when it comes to if it has wax on or not. (cue the karate kid jokes 😉)

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While i was there i also grabbed some bags from the fruit and veg section 😜, these ones are smooth on the outside and rougher on the inside, similar to the large brown paper shopping bags at Morrisons, Not sure what that means either lol

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Cheers @Military Grade After loads of online searching I can't seem to find anything that says 'wax free' but there's company's claiming they're bags are compostable.

I'd say compostable are the ones to go for , but I'm no weed drying bag expert 😀

 

 

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I had a little look online to see if wax is biodegradable, not sure if this applies to the wax used on paper bags 🤷‍♂️, but something to read if bored lol

 

 

 

Is Wax Biodegradable?

One aspect to consider in the sustainability of a wax is its end of life or the ‘grave’ in the ‘Cradle-to-Grave’ Life Cycle Assessments.  Sometimes it is viable to reuse or recycle a wax to create a ‘Cradle to Cradle’ circle, but often disposal, and therefore biodegradability is an important factor when considering which wax to use in a candle, cosmetic or a technical coating application.

Not all waxes are readily biodegradable and can persist in the environment for long periods, contributing to pollution or threatening marine and terrestrial wildlife via ingestion. Being aware of which waxes are and are not readily biodegradable is the first step.

 

Biodegradability of waxes

Biodegradation is the natural breakdown of a material by microorganisms such as bacteria and fungi.  Biodegradability therefore refers to the ability of a material to be broken down into basic compounds such as water, carbon dioxide and minerals.  This is normally measured in time, in certain environmental conditions such as terrestrial soil or a marine environment.

As of August 2023, we are not aware of any scientific studies that directly compare the biodegradability of waxes, so we have needed to interpret data from a number of different studies and draw conclusions from each in order to reach a reasonable conclusion.

 

Hydrogenated plant oils

Waxes produced by hydrogenating natural vegetable oils such as soybean oil, rapeseed oil, coconut oil, castor oil, palm oil, etc. are readily biodegradable.  These waxy materials consist of mainly triglycerides, which are readily broken down by bacteria, especially in the presence of heat and water.  While hydrogenation reduces their biodegradability to a small degree, they are still highly biodegradable.   

 

True natural waxes

Carnauba Wax and Candelilla Wax are hard waxes that are exuded by plants to protect the surface of their leaves from environmental influences and prevent moisture loss.  Rice Bran Wax and Sunflower Wax are waxy deposits present in rice bran oil and sunflower oil which are separated from the oil by winterization.  Sumac Berry Wax and Japan Wax are obtained by pressing the berry of the Rhus Succedanea or Japanese wax tree. Beeswax is produced by honeybees as the construction material for honeycomb.  Beeswax is designed to protect and seal brood chambers and provide  storage containers for honey.  In addition to microorganisms, wax moths, which are endemic to most parts of the world, feed on and metabolize beeswax.  

While the proportions vary, these natural waxes have a significant proportion of esters, alcohols and free acids, all of which are known to biodegrade readily, although at a slower rate than hydrogenated oils. 

 

Hydrocarbon waxes

Paraffin, Microcrystalline, Ceresine, Ozokerite, Fischer Tropsch and Polyethylene waxes are derived from crude oil, coal and natural gas, although some PE and FT waxes are now being produced from renewable sources.  All these waxes are mixtures of hydrogen and carbon, and tend to be less readily biodegradable than fatty acids, triglycerides, alcohols and esters. 

While laboratory studies have indicated that some microorganisms can metabolize paraffin wax under the right aerobic conditions, these conditions tend not to exist in normal terrestrial and marine environments.  Studies have also shown microcrystalline waxes and petroleum jelly are less biodegradable than paraffin wax.  We have been unable to find any specific studies on other waxes in this group but expect similar results.

So how can British Wax help?

British Wax has supplied natural waxes for more than 100 years.  We are committed to our sustainable journey and have been actively replacing non-natural materials in our range for the last 20 years.  Measured by total weight, more than 80% of materials purchased in 2022 were of natural origin (according to ISO 16128) and we are continually working on the rest.  We can support our customers with natural and sustainable wax solutions that also deliver great performance. 

 

 

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I just order a Subway delivery and use those bags.

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

I've been trying this method out and I've struck disaster.. my humidity in the bag has gone up to 88 from 65 in two days.. can someone help me asap 😭

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Take them out of the bag completely or just open the bag... 

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24 minutes ago, leafsta said:

Take them out of the bag completely or just open the bag... 

Either would do, but i'd probably take them out myself just because of paranoia lol

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@leafsta I put about two layers of buds in the bag with the top of the bag slightly open and with a little fan blowing over the top. Every day give the bag a gentle shake. Worked well for me. Good luck buddy.

@Military Grade I found some compostable brown hemp bags online. Going to give these a try with my outdoor harvest.

Just do a Google search , there fucking expensive mind...

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If you have Amazon prime, order some food shopping from morrisons via amazon for home delivery... they come in nice big brown paper bags!

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I used the one you have to pay for instore thanks to @Revive recommendation🫡, I had to slow their dry down for a extra day while it was hot and they did a good job in that task 👍

 

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17 minutes ago, Military Grade said:

I used the one you have to pay for instore thanks to @Revive recommendation🫡, I had to slow their dry down for a extra day while it was hot and they did a good job in that task 👍

 

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There ideal MG ain't they..good size and robust enough for multiple harvests 👍

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