Dodgee Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 No panic hun alot of it goes over my head too I'm sure there's a couple of guys here who are in the insulation trade, probably better to wait for one of thems in put than go by anything I say! But a quick Google reveals this... 9 Hollow Block Wall Insulation Up to 50% of heat lost through Cavity Block Walls! Cavity blocks (9 hollow blocks) were often used in the past for home construction due to cost considerations, and they are particularly common in the Dublin area. This type of construction was very poor in terms of heat retention and comfort levels. Up to 50%of your expensive heat dissipates to the outside, leaving you to count the cost in heating bills. Disadvantages of a Cavity Block Wall High risk of dampness Drastic heat loss High risk of mildew High risk of mould appearing on the inner walls Poor insulation Low BER ratings reducing, the value of your home None of which I expect you wanted to hear!!! Gimme a chance and I'll post the recommended solution... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishgirl Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 No panic hun alot of it goes over my head too I'm sure there's a couple of guys here who are in the insulation trade, probably better to wait for one of thems in put than go by anything I say! But a quick Google reveals this... 9 Hollow Block Wall Insulation Up to 50% of heat lost through Cavity Block Walls! Cavity blocks (9 hollow blocks) were often used in the past for home construction due to cost considerations, and they are particularly common in the Dublin area. This type of construction was very poor in terms of heat retention and comfort levels. Up to 50%of your expensive heat dissipates to the outside, leaving you to count the cost in heating bills. Disadvantages of a Cavity Block Wall High risk of dampness Drastic heat loss High risk of mildew High risk of mould appearing on the inner walls Poor insulation Low BER ratings reducing, the value of your home None of which I expect you wanted to hear!!! Gimme a chance and I'll post the recommended solution... Aah, thanks, your a sweet heart . I know I will have to insulate it to the best of my ability . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishgirl Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Sorry bud Wiser for taken over your thread. Now look what you made me start . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgee Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Have a look at this video Apparently this is the cheapest and most effective way to improve the walls insulation properties but seems like a specialist application. Not sure if yr average diy enthusiast would be able to do it or not... Sorry it's not a quick fix answer to yr problem and sorry if I'm just confusing the issue but information is king and better to know what yr dealing with before trying to deal with it if you follow... If I find anything useful I'll let you know. Otherwise it's stick to yr original plan n hope for the best I guess!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishgirl Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Have a look at this video Apparently this is the cheapest and most effective way to improve the walls insulation properties but seems like a specialist application. Not sure if yr average diy enthusiast would be able to do it or not... Sorry it's not a quick fix answer to yr problem and sorry if I'm just confusing the issue but information is king and better to know what yr dealing with before trying to deal with it if you follow... If I find anything useful I'll let you know. Otherwise it's stick to yr original plan n hope for the best I guess!! Mmmh,, thanks for this & your help, most appreciated. I believe this would also be an expensive route as I did look at this insulation foam filling. If it came in a can & a hose I would do it myself . I guess my donkeys would benefit from it also as they will be in the adjoining cabin to this shed . Ooh they would be really happy with me then, keeping them warm for the winter months . Ya this cabin was built in the early 60's, maybe late 50's just to keep diary food etc in it for the animals so I thought with all my bright ideas that I could convert it to a veg & groom. I guess it is back to the drawing board . It can be so difficult to know what to do & I know builders etc but I would not ask them for advice or anything as they only want to know what you are doing it for etc & the next thing you know everybody knows what your doing, even before you know yourself . The joys of living in a small community. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgee Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Assuming the structure is of an adequate size I would personally go for a room within a room. The shed simply providing camouflage for what's really inside. If the interior floor is a level hardstanding I would again advocate thermalite. It's lightweight, easy to work with (blocks can be cut with a handsaw), excellent insulation properties and would easily support the weight of a weatherproof roof and all the bits n pieces your going to want to hang from it. With the addition of a solid door it would be far more secure than a wood build too. Obviously I have some ability /knowledge about blockwork building but tbh it's nothing anybody couldn't do after following a few YouTube guides. Regards getting in professionals maybe the donkeys would provide perfect cover? As in "I'm worried about the cold nights and want my animals to be warm n comfy.." or words to that effect... Whatever you decide best of luck with it. And I should probably add my apologies to the op.. Sorry taking yr thread off topic mate, a little spare time on my hands n I tend to ramble on a bit! Sorry. Best regards n good luck with yr builds folks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTR Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 ?? Are tents bad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTR Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Sorry bud Wiser for taken over your thread. Now look what you made me start . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Wiser Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 @@JTR No, tents aren't bad. But you don't go to all this expense and trouble to put a tent in there ... defeats the object. Tents are for the corner of the bedroom! @@Irishgirl @@Dodgee Not my thread, you've hijacked it from a hijacker! Insulation and the thermo-dynamics of materials I'm not an expert in, but I'm sure there's plenty of info out there if you look. Sounds to me like you're both on the right track tho', just think logically in my opinion. The plastic lining's there for the CO2 mainly. Wood's porous, I want max efficiency, and I'll deal with moisture-control from within. Also, I don't want damp seeping in through the wood from outside. It's all theory, and I'll rip it out if it doesn't work! I bought my Airtec insulation sheeting from Screwfix today .. last roll left as it's a clearance item! At over £100 a roll normally, £40 was a bargain. A 10m roll of silvered Mylar costs £21 ... this is a 25m roll, so in effect it's cheaper. Enough to insulate and silver-line the shed twice over! Grab some while you can ... a steal methinks. If I can find some time over the weekend, I'll be shed-busy again. Like @@botanics said, it's like building a den when you're a kid !! Nowt quite like it. Boys and their sheds, eh? Skint Bud 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu914 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 @@Bud Wiser Hi bud, just a small observation, mylar, flat emulsion paint etc reflect evenly, whereas baco foil and the like has hot spots, not sure if the reflective stuff you intend to use will suit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishgirl Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Bud Wiser Insulation and the thermo-dynamics of materials I'm not an expert in, but I'm sure there's plenty of info out there if you look. Sounds to me like you're both on the right track tho', just think logically in my opinion. Yes correct & right budWiser but it's so difficult in 'getting it right' story of my life . Yes the airtec insulation roll you bought is a real bargain. It's €127.95 on their website here so you did well with that buy. Think I seen it else where, I must look again. Well as much as Dodgee has been helpful I think I am back to my original plan with PIR insulation boards & so forth. I can fully relate to you & botanic, boys and their sheds, well I guess it will have to be me & my cabin . Good luck with your shed progress over the weekend. Ooh, I decided to camp out, over the weekend, in the corner of you garden incase I miss anything. You won't even know I'm there . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Wiser Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 @@stu914 Thanks dude, observation welcome. We'll see when we get it ... if it does create hotspots, then I'll paint the fucker! The thermal properties alone were worth getting it for ... equivalent of 55mm of polystyrene, and enough to insulate a 5-bed house! Bud on Reflection 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Wiser Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Ooh, I decided to camp out, over the weekend, in the corner of you garden in case I miss anything. You won't even know I'm there . @@Irishgirl You can camp out in my garden anytime you want hun ..! Bud-in-a-Tent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishgirl Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 @@stu914 Thanks dude, observation welcome. We'll see when we get it ... if it does create hotspots, then I'll paint the fucker! The thermal properties alone were worth getting it for ... equivalent of 55mm of polystyrene, and enough to insulate a 5-bed house! Bud on Reflection You can always put B&W,or even Ocra sheeting, if pennies allow over airtec insulation. Well this is my way of thinking & more then possibly doing it like this. On short term the airtec would also do until you have enuff funds to move on to the next part. It's not cheap building a groom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Wiser Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 The joys of living in a small community. I know exactly what you mean. Being from a rural North-Walian small-community, even if you had sex discreetly with a sheep, word would soon get out, and eventually the sheep would get a name for herself ..! Bud Bach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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