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[Guest RandyBoBandy]

And there is quite a difference between East North south and west london

[Amarillo slim]

You do understand that the south of England isn't just London, don't you?

yeah its a classic northerner thing to over generalise like that.

[Loam Gnome]

May be of interest to some folks.

Check out Azos by Extreme Gardening. I am gonna use this with Mycos along with a mid May plant out, when soil temperatures are decent for it to take effect.

Soil temps at bottom of page.

http://www.kws-uk.com/aw/KWS/united-kingdom/Products-TopMenu/Maize/~fnbz/UK-Soil-Temp/

[Loam Gnome]

Say hello to Bing(1) everyone

[rusty trichomes]

Why would anyone call a strain original gangster kush?

i herd ocean grown l allso herd original ganja . because of the links to hindu kush i think . but im sure the og in og kush has a different meaning were ever you i

not sure why i answred that just bored n high i supose

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[rusty trichomes]

bored got me thinking again and

The Mysterious Legends of OG Kush and What ‘OG’ Stands For Remains Unanswered to This Day

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The debate over the The debate over the genetics of OG Kush and what exactly ‘OG’ stands for has been a heated topic of discussion for many years. Here is what we do know.

It has gained a sort of mythical reputation and has become one of the most sought after strains in California. Although the strain is relatively popular on dispensary menus, the extremely high demand causes some prices to get as high as 30 per gram, and 55 per eighth.

OG Kush is known to be fairly difficult to grow; producing low yields if not grown correctly. This also makes it a risky investment for growers, which tends to drive down the supply.

Despite that fact, OG Kush is highly sought out for because of its unique taste, scent, look, feel and high, which is definitely not for the feint of heart. The compact buds are almost neon green in color, with heavy crystallization that will leave your fingers extremely sticky after handling. When grown properly, the strain is a delicacy that deserves a spot on every marijuana enthusiast’s wish list.

While many websites and dispensaries list OG Kush as an indica, many people argue that the strain is in fact a sativa, or some sort of sativa-dominant hybrid. We can’t exactly argue with them considering the genetics are, for the most part unknown, and stem from purely myth. The thing to remember is that most of the different types of OG’s are phenotypes of the original OG Kush plant from the 90’s.

A phenotype is simply a difference in the outward, physical appearance of the plant. This includes the atoms, molecules, cell structures, metabolism, and basically everything else that is a function or behavior of a plant (different smells, tastes, and highs). There is in essence, an endless amount of marijuana phenotypes beyond sativa and indica. When you examine different types of pure indica’s, there are obvious differences in traits across the strains.

“A phenotype is simply a difference in the outward, physical appearance of the plant.”

What this means is that two different seeds from the same mother plant (same genotype) can have significant variation in the resulting plants (phenotype). This is thought to occur in some hybrid plants because the sativa gene is recessive. A plant with a 60/40 cross in favor of sativa can produce seeds with a dominance of indica traits, essentially resulting in two completely different strains. Although people modestly classify them as “hybrids,” we believe these phenotypes are far more complex than that, and deserve more accurate categorization in the future.

Seedfinder lists OG Kush as Indica, with a family tree stemming from Chemdawg (Chemdawg x [Lemon Thai x Old World Paki Kush]). However, a number of debaters argue that OG Kush is simply a phenotype ofChemdawg that is a result of years of stabilization and finding the perfect fertilizers.

Kailua Kid from the Sierra Seed Company believes that in late 93’ a grower in northern California got his hands on the famous Chemdawg strain. He goes on to say (summarized from Seedfinder), that this was shared with a fellow grower from Sunset Beach who claimed he had a male that was the, “secret ingredient,” for breeding. The male was a cross of Lemon Thai and an Old World Paki Kush (possibly where the ‘Kush’ came from), and was an ideal mix for the Chemdawg. The buds became wildly popular in Los Angeles by ’95.

“From that point on the name Ocean Grown Kush caught on and was shortened to OG Kush over time.”

The urban myth is that the original grower of the new strain was handed a bowl when his friend mentioned that the Kush he was about to smoke was “so good because it was mountain grown.” Upon further inspection, the grower detected the recognizable scent of his own crop and corrected the man by saying, “This Kush isn’t mountain grown, its Ocean Grown Kush, Bro!” From that point on the name Ocean Grown Kush caught on and was shortened to OG Kush over time.

Then, when the original grower fled the country in ’96, he left cuts of his OG with some friends in Downey, California. These phenotypes were eventually spread to San Fernando Valley and Orange County, and later became known as SFV OG, and Larry OG. The SFV is similar to the original phenotype but is known to possess more sativa attributes, and the Larry is thought to be a phenotype of the SFV and the original OG Kush. The same group of growers is rumored to of come up with the original version of West Coast Dog and the original Bubba Kush.

We also came across a number of other theories about the origins of OG Kush and the meaning of ‘OG’ in our research on the subject.

• Some people believe that the ‘OG’ is a memorial to OverGrown.com, which was the world’s largest cannabis grow site until 2006 when they were shut down by the Canadian police for, “illegally distributing seeds.”
• Others believe that ‘OG’ stands for, “Original Gangster,” which was a strain from the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles. It is thought that this is the plant that produced the OG’s that became so famous in southern California, putting the area on the medical marijuana map.

The specific genetics of OG Kush will most likely forever remain a mystery, and honestly this is all right with us. The mysterious reputation makes it even more desirable; like a forbidden fruit. However, regardless of its origins, OG Kush will always be an American favorite.

Where do you think OG Kush really comes from?

so who know no body . heres the link i used http://www.medicaljane.com/2013/01/05/the-legend-of-og-kush/

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[Loam Gnome]

Is'nt it Orgasmic Groaning Kush?

[rusty trichomes]

yeh yours sounds better loamy

[rusty trichomes]

here is a diary ive been followin some really great plants blowing up . brown guy 420 you on tube ill try keep putting the updates in here if i rember

enjoy

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[Monkeygrow]

I am looking to make a little light box at the weekend. I will buy stuff if needed but I have access to 2ft, 18watt fluorescent tubes And fittings. Would these be ok to use. Would 3 be enough?

ATB monkey

[rusty trichomes]

any one seen this course ad floating about . im not sure were in the uk this is . its a bit on the prisey side , but may be a good to have under ya belt if we ever get medi weed here in the uk maybee

anyway seed in advitized on sea of seeds .com . and thought thats different ill share that over here . so heres what saw

! Alpha Cat is coming to the UK ! At the moment there is going to be 1 Course available at the end of October date to be confirmed. This 1 day course will include an Alpha-Cat mini test kit, The course will consist of: Cannabinoid Testing with alpha-CAT : 6 hours 10h00 - 12h00 = Cannabinoid science/ current cannabinoids detection techniques 1 hour : LUNCH Break 13h30 - 14 h30 = Introduction to alpha-CAT protocol 14h30 - 16h30 = Practical 15 minutes : Coffee and Tea Break 16h45 - 17h45 = Interpretation for certification The Total price for this course is £380 This will include 1 day Training, The mini test kit and Tea and coffee.

so there it is just thoght id share there is some more info over there i think this just the main bit

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[rusty trichomes]

brown guy 420 vid 58 enjoy after this the comp results . um ill do two vids a week ad here

https://youtu.be/d_m6iqQzJUo

edit cus put wrong vid here

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Edited April 21, 2016 by rusty trichomes

[rusty trichomes]

incase anyone didn't know what no till farming was . like mentioned in the above video . im not sure it is no till in the vid as he says , because its in pots so must be disturbed anyway

this is what i found on no till farming

recently posted this picture of amassed corn stalk residue on my facebook page with the description “Water has caused crop residue to accumulate in some areas creating a thick mat. In our no-till fields. We may have to burn a few of these to assist the planter in placing seed correctly.” The first comment on the photo resulted in the post you are reading right now. That comment read “What’s a no till field? Why would you not till a field?” A great question. There are many kinds of tillage including not tilling at all.

What is No-Till?

What we call trash wheels are mounted on the front of our planter (folded for transport in this picture). These units are designed to move residue away from the seed furrow before seed is placed. Crop residue can impede germination. All we want these units to do is sweep residue out of a narrow path. We don’t want them adjusted too low where they will make a trench in the soil.

No-till is just what is sounds like. A true no-till system avoids disturbing the soil with tools like chisel plows, field cultivators, disks, and plows. Not all of our acres are no-till, but we have been doing less tillage as of late including putting more acres into no-till. I’m 32 years old and I’ve never actually ran a moldboard plow over a field aside from the single acre we took turns playing on a few years ago in our 1956 John Deere 70 Diesel and three-bottom plow. I might lose some farmer points here, but I don’t even know how to plow a field properly. Lack of experience I guess. A plow could be considered the polar opposite of no-till. A plow flips over the top layer of soil incorporating nearly all residue into the soil. No-till relies on natural processes to break down residue from the previous crop.

Advantages

• Reducing fuel, labor, and equipment costs are the most quantifiable benefits of not doing any tillage. Our current tillage system normally includes a fall chisel plow pass to manage residue followed by a pass, or two, with a field cultivator to prepare a seed bed for planting. This system would be called minimum or conservation tillage by some, but right off the bat a no-till plan cuts at least two trips across our ground out of our budget. If we quit doing tillage over our whole farm we’re looking at removing a couple of gallons per acre of fuel from our expenses. Take the price of diesel today times our just over 2,000 acres of farmland and you’ll get a fairly substantial number. That’s also fewer hours on a tractor meaning more value at trade-in time, and less wear and tear on tillage tools. In fact I believe if we went 100% dedicated no-till we could sell off all our tillage tools and downsize one tractor from our lineup. We’ve recently purchased a John Deere 2623VT vertical tillage tool, but let’s keep things simple for now.
• Improved soil structure is another big benefit. Tillage disrupts the natural structure of soil and releases some of the carbon soil organisms thrive on. Soil biology plays an important role in providing crops with the water and nutrients they need.
• Potential for erosion can be reduced by leaving more residue on the surface in the months when there are no crops growing. Residue allows for rainwater and snow melt to infiltrate the soil rather than causing surface run off that will carry away topsoil and nutrients. Of course if enough rains falls on already saturated soils you’ll have some runoff no matter what. We are experiencing those conditions right now.
• Reducing soil compaction is a great benefit. Soil gets compacted any time equipment drives over the surface. The weight of farm equipment compacts the air and water pockets present in soil that allow for the movement of water, crop roots, and soil organisms. Combines and grain carts are the worst offenders because they are very heavy. Since no-till reduces the amount of equipment a field sees the threat of compaction is reduced. Compaction cannot be avoided completely, but it can be managed by limiting field traffic to certain areas. Subsoilers and cover crops can also correct compaction issues.

The effect of compaction from our combine can clearly been seen in our oat and radish cover crop that has winter-killed. The cover crop was aerial applied before harvest and actually grew best where the combine tires pushed the seeds into the soil. Cover crop radishes are bred to break up compacted soil.

Disadvantages

• With no-till a farmer has lost the ability to mechanically control weeds through tillage. Biotechnology has been given some credit for increasing no-till acres because technologies like Roundup Ready have made weed control by herbicide very effective both in performance and cost. Herbicides with residual action can help stem weed growth post-plant. Row crop cultivators are nearly a tool of the past for conventional farmers. We used to go back into our fields during the growing season and pull a cultivator between the rows in order to slow down weeds enough to give the crop a chance to canopy over the open space to shade out weeds. Row crop cultivating takes resources such as time, labor, fuel, and causes wear on equipment. We now employ cover crops on some of our no-till acres, and some covers are good at suppressing weeds. Cereal rye is one of those covers. I’ve seen organic no-tillaccomplished by growing a cereal rye cover crop which is later terminated with a roller-crimper ahead of planting. The thick mat of rye keeps weeds at bay.
• There is a risk of carrying over plant diseases when crop residue is not incorporated into the soil after harvest. The residue serves as a host for disease and can infect the following crop. However farmers can mitigate this situation by rotating crops that are not susceptible to the same diseases.
• It takes time to see the benefits of no-till. One can’t take a farm that has been tilled for 50 years or more and hope to see big gains in yield after one season. Patience is important. Soil needs time to regain structure, and that doesn’t happen overnight. Right now we have a some fields that will be going into no-till and using cover crops between cash crops. I plan to keep this system in place for a few years, and then we’ll see what kind of results we are getting from soil nutrient tests, water infiltration, compaction, and yield.

This field was soybeans last fall that will be no-till corn in 2013. Soybean stubble along with corn stalks washed in from the field pictured above have made a thick mat here.

This field belongs to a neighbor that hosts a plow day in the fall for antique equipment. Notice how there is no residue on the surface. Heavy rains have pounded the surface, making it hard for water to soak it. More rainfall will wash away valuable topsoil. The top layer of soil here will probably be almost a fine powder when the seed bed is prepared.

This soil isn’t going anywhere! Our field here is under a cereal rye cover crop as of 4/26/2013. The rye was seeded into a standing corn crop September 2012. No tillage was done here either.

I think our farm needs to be leaning towards less tillage or none at all in the future, and right now we are headed that way. In recent history we have sold off our ripper, a soil finisher, and traded our disk for that vertical tillage tool I mentioned. We are expanding our cover crop acres which will more than likely be no-till acres as well. Do you think we are headed in the right direction?

intesting and random . ive been taking over in here a bit im going to leave it for a bit

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Edited April 21, 2016 by Twisted Rizla
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@@Monkeygrow for veg I use about 50-70 W floros per sqft. For flowering, 100-120w/sqft.

You've got 54w, and they're 2 ft, so that'll light an area 6 inches x 2 ft.

whenever I've seen them used they're packed in tight up against each other.

Edited April 21, 2016 by marquee moon

[Bubs Smoosh]

any one seen this course ad floating about . im not sure were in the uk this is . its a bit on the prisey side , but may be a good to have under ya belt if we ever get medi weed here in the uk maybee

anyway seed in advitized on sea of seeds .com . and thought thats different ill share that over here . so heres what saw

! Alpha Cat is coming to the UK ! At the moment there is going to be 1 Course available at the end of October date to be confirmed. This 1 day course will include an Alpha-Cat mini test kit, The course will consist of: Cannabinoid Testing with alpha-CAT : 6 hours 10h00 - 12h00 = Cannabinoid science/ current cannabinoids detection techniques 1 hour : LUNCH Break 13h30 - 14 h30 = Introduction to alpha-CAT protocol 14h30 - 16h30 = Practical 15 minutes : Coffee and Tea Break 16h45 - 17h45 = Interpretation for certification The Total price for this course is £380 This will include 1 day Training, The mini test kit and Tea and coffee.

so there it is just thoght id share there is some more info over there i think this just the main bit

be lucky

Hey rusty, I actually met the guy from Alpha CAT uk yesterday. He is friends with my good pal in Colorado, so I welcomed him round mine for a smoke out and some good old English tea. They are good folks. Interestingly the same company as sells the KanaVape, it's a French inventor that's the brains behind the kit.

I learned a hell of a lot about testing, chromotography, all the different cannabinoids. It's pretty cost effective really. All you need is a sample, decent set of scales 0.001, a well ventilated area (kitchen) and about an hour. The higher the concentrations the more intense the spots. I put a pic in the outdoor vs. Indoor thread as my mighty freeze killed the indoor uk cheese...

You can pick up the testing kit for 80quid. And you get a load of brochures / instructions with it.

The only way to get a more accurate test is gas chromatography and high performance liquid chromatography. Both of which cost hundreds (300+) to carry out, per sample, and honestly - from lab to lab, with the same sample, vary wildly.

Any questions please ask, I feel like a Demi-Guru on all things testing... Absorbed a lot of THC + CBD + CBN + THCV + CBG + CBC yesterday