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This pissed me off too, i could only assume they were all dumped, crashed and out of petrol. Still, i'd have found an motor home dealers and got the biggest luxury home they had, loaded it up with goodies from the supermatket and fucked off to a secluded beach with a couple of honeys lol  

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Just done series 2 of Indian espionage drama The Family Man...pleased to say it was just as good as the first series...once again the Pakistani ISI are depicted as the bad guys with the deliciously villainous Major Sameer making a welcome comeback...this time linking up with a Tamil "terrorist" cell to orchestrate an assasination plot..nail-biting excitement (particularly if you're rooting for the "bad guys")..:wassnnme:

 

 

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The Watch  BBC iPlayer

 

Based on characters created by Terry Pratchett and it seems to me the book Guards! Guards!  this is a very stylized setting using Steampunk sensibilities.  Halfway through an eight episode series.  Better than any of the other adaptions of the books I've seen.  Worth a look.

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Binge watched Black Summer zombie flick, 2 seasons, fast paced mad as hell, still don't know wtf was going on lol but loved it and want more.

 

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On 02/07/2021 at 2:05 PM, Hir said:

The Watch  BBC iPlayer

 

Based on characters created by Terry Pratchett and it seems to me the book Guards! Guards!  this is a very stylized setting using Steampunk sensibilities.  Halfway through an eight episode series.  Better than any of the other adaptions of the books I've seen.  Worth a look.

 

 

Just started watching it. OK, I can get Vetinari as a woman, that's all good. But with that actress and that characterisation. No. Just absolute no. Vetinari is supposed to be an utterly menacing machiavellian dictator, not duckface from Four Weddings with an Elvis bouffant :nea:

 

E2A Oh FFS and Cheery is supposed to be a dwarf, Cheery Littlebottom is a running joke.

 

And where the fuck are Nobby and Colon ???

 

No, sorry, I think this is utter fucking shit. Can't even be bothered watching the second episode. Onlything they got even slightly right was Sam Vimes as the utter pisshead he was at the start. Everything else is just utter shit.

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Binge watched "The Serpent" on netflix.  (Whats become of me!?) Decent, well cast series.  Nicely shot, satisfyingly period correct with a bustle of old cars and funky outfits.  The visual appeal leads the intriguing story along nicely.  My only gripe was that its chronologically fucked and jumps about a bit, necessary for the story though.  Based on a true story too which always piques my interest.

Worth a watch.

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7 hours ago, Boojum said:

 

 

Just started watching it. OK, I can get Vetinari as a woman, that's all good. But with that actress and that characterisation. No. Just absolute no. Vetinari is supposed to be an utterly menacing machiavellian dictator, not duckface from Four Weddings with an Elvis bouffant :nea:

 

E2A Oh FFS and Cheery is supposed to be a dwarf, Cheery Littlebottom is a running joke.

 

And where the fuck are Nobby and Colon ???

 

No, sorry, I think this is utter fucking shit. Can't even be bothered watching the second episode. Onlything they got even slightly right was Sam Vimes as the utter pisshead he was at the start. Everything else is just utter shit.

Terrys own daughter has major issues wi that show and the folks behind it

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Warrior on Prime. If you like your kung fu fighting this is decent. Based on the writings of Bruce Lee and produced by his grand daughter I think. :ninja:

 

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8 hours ago, McHazy said:

Terrys own daughter has major issues wi that show and the folks behind it

 

It was made by the BBC in association with  Narrativia,  Terry Prachett's own production company.

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I just don't get why people make TV/movie adaptations of books and have the sheer hubris to change things. Either tell the story that the author wrote or don't fucking bother.

 

E2A I think the Sky adaptaions of a few of the Discworld novels with the tragically miscast David Jason were better than The Watch, and they were fucking awful.

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2 hours ago, Boojum said:

I just don't get why people make TV/movie adaptations of books and have the sheer hubris to change things. Either tell the story that the author wrote or don't fucking bother.

 

E2A I think the Sky adaptaions of a few of the Discworld novels with the tragically miscast David Jason were better than The Watch, and they were fucking awful.

 

Watch it all man, yes they fucked around with some of the tropes and characters but I enjoyed it possibly because I'm not quite as tied into the lore as you are.  I would feel the same if somebody had messed around with LOTR or, as they did, with the Hobbit but this does get better and has a few very funny moments.

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Sometimes it's necessary for the tv adaptions to alter the story as the useless fuckwit author hasn't finished the series of books as in the case of George R Martin. Then the producers of said Tv show are at liberty to totally fuck it up in the last series. 

 

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Hir said:

 

It was made by the BBC in association with  Narrativia,  Terry Prachett's own production company.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/oct/12/bbc-the-watch-shares-no-dna-with-terry-pratchett-work-daughter-rhianna

 

BBC's The Watch 'shares no DNA with Terry Pratchett's work', says daughter

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Rhianna Pratchett joins fans unhappy with the forthcoming TV adaptation of her father’s Discworld stories about Ankh-Morpork’s City Watch

Richard Dormer as Captain Sam Vimes and Marama Corlett as Corporal Angua in The Watch. Photograph: BBC America Photograph: BBC America

Alison Flood

Mon 12 Oct 2020 16.50 BST

Terry Pratchett’s daughter Rhianna Pratchett has said that the forthcoming television adaptation of the late author’s stories about Ankh-Morpork’s City Watch “shares no DNA with my father’s Watch”, and that she “should know”.

The Watch, a new series from BBC America and BBC Studios, will air in January in the US, but a trailer shared over the weekend has prompted an outpouring of criticism from fans. Describing itself as “inspired by” Pratchett’s novels about the City Watch, the new trailer for the series shows Richard Dormer as a punk-rock version of the Watch’s grizzled commander Sam Vimes, in a show that BBC America is pitching as about a band of “misfit cops as they fight to save a ramshackle city of normalised wrongness from both the past and future in a perilous quest”.

“Look, I think it’s fairly obvious that The Watch shares no DNA with my father’s Watch. This is neither criticism nor support. It is what it is,” wrote Rhianna Pratchett, a game designer and author, on Twitter.

The award-winning science fiction and fantasy author Aliette de Bodard was one of many to criticise the new trailer. De Bodard said she was “super disappointed”, and would not be watching the adaptation. “I feel someone took my teenage years and just repeatedly trampled them while setting them on fire,” she wrote on Twitter.

“I’m a big fan of remixing things and adapting them, and I don’t expect any adaptation to be faithful in the sense of rigidly following books. But... you cannot take the core of what makes the story, remove it, and then change every single character and still call it the Watch,” said de Bodard. “I see absolutely NOTHING of the books in the trailer. I see vigilantism (which Vimes ABHORS) being justified … I see Vimes as some kind of funny, incompetent seeming policeman, and that is NOT what Vimes is about. Vimes is drunk. Vimes is angry. But Vimes is never anything less than sharp.”

Neil Gaiman, who co-wrote Good Omens with Terry Pratchett and shepherded the recent adaptation as showrunner, added his voice to hers. Fans, he pointed, out, like the source material, “so if you do something else, you risk alienating the fans on a monumental scale. It’s not Batman if he’s now a news reporter in a yellow trenchcoat with a pet bat”.

Rhianna Pratchett had previously called out the showrunner of The Watch, Simon Allen, for failing to thank her father in a message to the show’s creators, and has been clear that the show is “inspired by”, rather than based on, the City Watch books. The BBC has had “complete creative control”, she has said, and she has not been involved “for years”.

In a panel at New York ComicCon last week, the show’s executive producer Richard Stokes said that Pratchett’s books were “incredible, but what was very clear from the early part of development was that none of the books individually lend themselves to an eight-part series … so we had to do a sort of pick-and-mix of the best bits across the range of books and invent our own series, invent our own world.”

Stokes said you “don’t need to know the books to be able to enjoy the series and that’s one of the most exciting things about it for a big audience”.

Rhianna Pratchett, through the independent production company Narrativia which was launched by her father, is currently working with Motive Pictures and Endeavor Content to create “truly authentic … prestige adaptations that remain absolutely faithful to [Pratchett’s] original, unique genius”.

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4 hours ago, McHazy said:

In a panel at New York ComicCon last week, the show’s executive producer Richard Stokes said that Pratchett’s books were “incredible, but what was very clear from the early part of development was that none of the books individually lend themselves to an eight-part series …

 

 

So you shouldn't have decided try make an eight part series :headpain: You clearly didn't care one jot about the source material, you just wanted to try and cash in on Terry Pratchett's name and that's probably what offends me the most.

 

Fuck's sake.

 

I'm not going to waste my time watching any more of it. The first episode was a steaming pile of excrement and an insult to the memory of Terry Pratchett. I couldn't care less if there's some funny bits later in the series, I couldn't sit through one more second of it. If they wanted to make some kind of bloody 'steampunk' thing (trying to cash in on something else that they clearly have no understanding of and affinity for) then they should have got someone to write an original series. Sorry, but it's really angered me, don't think I've been this annoyed by an 'adaptation' since the fucking appalling League of Extraordinary Gentlemen :frown:

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I'm watching The Serpent on Netflix at the moment. Based on true events it's telling the story of some psycho who preys on hippies to steal their money and identification. I'm 7 episodes in so I'm officially hooked.

 

It's got Jenna Coleman as one of the main characters :wub:

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